Theology of Time - October 15, 1972

 

We are here to correct you of some of your mistakes, and to declare your innocence of those mistakes. Some of those mistakes you are guilty of. We want to correct you in the public so the public won't think that we are going along with these mistakes, or backing you up in them. I don't back you up in that which is other than the truth. I don't care what you say, because it could be on me. "Mr. Muhammad, you are God, you are Master Fard Muhammad," don't tell me that. Master Fard Muhammad is the One that I'm representing. I am the man who just want to take my own place, and then leave the place that I don't belong in to the man who belong there.

I have heard some of you so-called believers putting your place in somebody else's place and making yourselves somebody else. What you are making is other than the truth. We want our people to be converted out of un-truth, into truth. We don't want to add nothing to the truth, because that will make it other than the truth. We're going to make it a habit of exposing you before those whom you lied to, letting them know that you were not telling them the truth. I don't back you up in telling other than the truth. Not only do I not back you up in you telling other than the truth, I am going to force those who are seeking the truth to not to back you up in it, and to walk out on you, because I'm going to tell them the truth. If you tell them other than the truth, I'm going to tell them that you told other than the truth right before their face, like you told them other than the truth to their face. I'm going to tell them the truth to their face.

I'm not here to preach lies; I'm here to preach the truth. You have lived under falsehood all your lives. The truth has come and falsehood must vanish. We were born under falsehood; consequently, we love falsehood rather than truth. As the Bible puts it, "They're born under darkness, we love darkness rather than light; so, when light comes we flee back looking for the darkness."

You have many things being taught and put out to the people as though I teach you that, so you will get your lies accepted. Brothers and sisters, I do not teach the people other than the truth. What I teach is truth. I'm not here to add anything to the truth. I'm not here trying to make you think I'm something that I'm not. If you think that I'm trying to make you see me in the light of something I'm not, get your book and come on and I will get my book and will prove to you that I don't go beyond the scope of my mission which Allah has given to me. If I say anything beyond what I've been missioned to do, which you can't find me backed up in the scripture of truth, come to me and I'll pay you a hundred dollars for every word - oh no, that's not enough, ten thousand dollars then, for every story [lie] that I tell you which is other than the truth. If you find anything I'm doing that you can prove is other than righteous, I will give you ten thousand dollars if the answer cannot be located in the scripture of truth.

There never was a false prophet sent to the people in the past, and this is not one standing before you. Some of the things that I do you may label as being other than right, but that's just because you have not read the scriptures. You haven't learned what the Last Man should look like, what he should do or how that the book teaches you that he is a Fulfiller. You don't take the time to read what a Fulfiller is. When a man comes to you and is sent by another one, and tells you that he fulfills Jonah's scriptures, well then, you should go and read Jonah and learn what Jonah did, to see if whether or not this man fulfills his work. Fulfills mean to do the same work which that man did. If the man you're talking to corresponds, then he's fulfilling; however, if you don't see Jonah's work, in this man's work, then he doesn't fulfill Jonah's work. Fulfill means to do what another one does. So be careful about how you label people to be something that they are not.

I want you to know that I don't condone falsehood, and if you want to do so, you are not following me, you're following yourself. I have some brothers who are just going out making up text of their own and delivering it to you to believe. I'm going to teach you the history of Jesus as Allah gave it to me, but please don't you try teaching it unless you're going to teach the truth. Some of you are going wild, telling everything of what you think. We don't want what you think, we want what God has taught us. We want His thinking and not yours.

This is what gives the people a wrong understanding of us. Here stands a liar on this corner and there stands a truth bearer on that corner. The people don't know which one to believe. The liar just says whatever comes up. All you know is how to tell something different from what you've heard. I don't want that kind of man or woman following me.

Don't add to what you hear me saying, nor take from what you hear me saying. It is the truth that I have received. When you go adding and taking from it, you make it other than the truth. I want to tell new people to stop listening to any such talk or teaching that is not in the same words that I am teaching. I would rather for all of them to come hear what I am saying directly, and if they find me telling other than the truth, then the whole teaching is other than the truth. You won't find me telling you other than the truth; not nothing I say. If you think I'm telling you other than the truth, come and explain to me what you think is other than the truth and I will give you a check for ten thousand dollars before you leave here. If that's not enough, I will make it ten thousand times ten thousand.

My goal to God is to tell you the truth, because a liar reared us and we can't leave that liar with his lie. We have to have the truth to go from him. Anything that I say, you're always welcomed to question me on it. I don't run from you just because you want to ask questions. I should say not; I'm here for you to question me on the knowledge of the truth which I'm teaching. You are offered that freedom by God Himself, Who taught me to ask Him questions and learn all about myself self. I'm equipped with the truth from Almighty God Allah. Some of it you may not understand, but don't try condemning that which you don't understand yourself. Don't fancy [imagine] out nothing, just tell the plain old truth.

I want to straighten out these false teachings, so that you may know the truth from myself who received it directly from the mouth of God. As I said, I'm willing to pay with my life for lying to you, if you find me lying. No, I'm not going to lie; no sir, I'm going to tell you the truth even if only one of you listens to it. I won't add a lie to it to make a house full of people listen it. I'm going to teach you the truth. A person could say, "I come to a place like this and you mislead me, telling other than the truth of what the Messenger has taught? Well brother, I don't care to walk with you in the gate."

What do you think I am, a liar? Try and prove it. I'm here directly from the face of God, as it's written. I didn't come of my own; I was raised up in your midst and sent to teach you the truth. No man on Earth could teach you what I'm teaching you. Why do you add to it? Why do you throw lies into it? As people listen to you, they will tell it, then you will be brought before me one day and I have the power with God to put a finishing touch to you. I'm certainly very dissatisfied with you rising up and taking hold of the truth, then putting it back before the people as lies from yourself. We may not like you after a while and I'm asking you to stop before we dislike you. When saying "We," I mean God Himself and I.

You are doing wrong things. We are here to kill the liar and destroy him who has destroyed the people of righteousness, by misleading them in the way of other than the truth. This is a good way to learn who your brother is. Just make up lies and go tell it to the people, making them think I'm teaching you that. It means you are coming to me. I'm not teaching the people other than the truth. It is you who are taking and ripping the truth apart by adding parts of your own lies of it. You won't get away with it. I'm most certainly that little fellow who's called a Lamb in the Bible, bound to get you for it.

Why would you come here to get truth to go and tell other than the truth with it? Get truth now, then add other than the truth to it. You shouldn't come here; this is the wrong place. This is where you come to learn the truth. I defy you to prove what I teach here is other than the truth. I do that every time I get on the stand. I want people who love the truth. I want people who love the results of truth and not the result of the lies and the liar. I can prove everything I preach to you, everything. I prove to you that it is the truth, not only that, everything I do can prove that it's the truth.

We believe that we have very intelligent people. We want them to listen to the truth, even to something of business which we should be doing and not to a lot of little brothers who don't know what they're talking about, just opening up their mouths saying what they think. I want you to know that I'm not participating in such foolishness and I don't teach any. There are foolish brothers or sisters who take the teaching and try making themselves look wise, but are actually making themselves look like a fool. I don't condone nothing of the kind. The truth alone is sufficient to make you to admire it or you can disbelieve and leave it alone. We are trying to make you see the importance of us doing something for self. I have, with the help of Allah, believers who follow me or bring to you an example of people who want to do something for self and if you are qualified to help us, come in and help. We will greatly appreciate your help and pray to Allah to give you the quality if you don't have what's needed to join up with us.

We learned of some of our people who're qualified to help build. We're coming after you. You're not rejected nor anyone else, we just want the people who can build according to the blueprints we give them. If you cannot build according to the blueprint, don't accept the job, because you hurt your reputation with your own people. We don't want you casted out of the job that we could have the money borrowed to have done. Confess what you can do, don't tell us what you cannot do. We're real glad if you can do it, but don't accept a job if you know you can't do it, just because you are our brother. Just say, "Brother, I'm your brother, but I can't do this job," then we will know what to do, but don't take a job from us knowing you're not qualified to do it; no, that hurts you and us. We want to admire your ability to do the job.

I'm so happy to learn that we have people among us who can do anything. We have some wise and well trained people, but they never were able to get together and do something for self. I want them to get with me and I'll show them some places where they can go to work and do something for self, yes. To leave such great people sitting idly by, just listening to thoughts, and never materializing the thought, it's not good. Get these people that have the know-how to work; let them do the work. Who would be any happier than I, to know that I have my own people here who have the knowledge of that which we want to do? There is no man among you who is happier than I am to know that you can do these things for yourself.

Some people think that none of us know anything, but we do have people who know something; they have not proved their knowledge so that others will know that they know. We want to feed ourselves. My beloved readers, if you want to feed yourselves, you should be compelled to go to the farm; that is where people find food. Don't be ashamed to go and do for yourselves, raising food in the country. Originally that is where our fathers came from and I want you to know that if we are to be a nation and a strong nation, we must go to the farm to feed our stomachs. Also, there we can feed even our backs with good clothes. Put good clothes on our backs from the farm. These things we have to do if we expect to live on this earth and get its yield out of it. We have to go and dig into it like the devil has done. He dug into it and made himself rich with a stomach full of good food from our labor, think over that. He looked at us and made us pull the earth's wealth out for himself and left us poor. Now, he says we're free. Let's make good of this freedom, then if he tries to hinder you from making good of that which he claim he has given to you, then make good both ways. Make good at stopping him from getting what he has given to you.

There is one thing I would like to warn you of, get you a name. I will show you how to get it: a name that will live. You can't see the hereafter with the white man's name. Every Black man on the Earth knows the white man's name from your name. Don't wear that name; don't be called by that name. If you don't do anything, but tell the world, "I'm the Lord's servant, but He has not given me His name yet," that's better than wearing a white man's name. Just tell them that, "Yes, I have a name; it's in my God's profession" "Well, what is that?" "Well, you can call me God; call me Allah; call me Gabriel, or call me anything, but a white man's name." We don't want the name of the devil. The Bible teaches you and me that, "All that had the name of the beast, call him a beast, they went down with the beast."

I'm not to tell you other than the truth; I am the next closest one to Allah. I don't think Allah will take a liar for His Right Hand - or His Right Hand would be a liar. No, I tell you what He taught me and it's up to you to believe it or let it alone. Don't be like those of whom the Holy Qur'an speaks of as saying, "Oh, would that I had followed the Messenger. Oh, would that I had taken away with the Apostle after the truth had come to me."

The world is in an awful condition. They want to shoot these people so bad. They're out telling them now. Since Japan has joined up with Korea and China, they are not afraid to tell you that they're ready to kill wild John; that's what they call the devil. I'm saying get out of the way of the shooting of wild John.

Are any questions? You may ask anything you want to. I'm very happy to answer them if I know the answer. I don't say to you that I know all the answers, unless He reveals them to me. Sometimes He reveals them by the time you get the question out of your mouth. I don't previously have the knowledge, but while you are asking the question, He tells me the answer.

Question: Dear Holy Apostle, from the teachings that I have heard, you have said that the moon represents, as it is right now in the first quarter, the original black people; am I right sir?

Messenger: No, it don't say really "represent" the black man in the stage he's in now, the way you see, but it represents the sign of the Black people that is here in North America that is blind, deaf and dumb and dead to the knowledge of self, but was once in the knowledge of self.

Question: What does the other three quarters represent?

Messenger: It represent stages in our rise into the knowledge of self.

Question: Where is Allah (God) in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad today?

Messenger: He Is where He Is.

Question: The event surrounding Pharaoh, could you tell me if that was a parable, or did that actually happen - The drowning in the Red Sea?

Messenger: Yes. There were signs and events that took place in the time of Pharaoh and his people and Israel was signs of what you see going on today. I don't know what signs you are referring to, but all the history that I have read of Pharaoh and his people with Israel is referring to us and our modern Pharaoh, according to what Allah has taught me.

Question: Was Pharaoh a black man or a white man?

Messenger: No. He was not white; there was not any Egyptian that was actually white at that time, according to the teachings of the history of pharaoh and his people. He was not really white people, because the origin of the population of Egypt was not made white. They were of the original.

Question: If man originated from an atom, where did the atom come from?

Messenger: It originated from space. It was out of space where he originated and the atom of life was in the darkness of the space and he came out of the atom which was in space.

Question: (by Messenger) Now you may wonder, how did that atom get in space?

Messenger: The history of the space teaches us that at that time it was nothing but darkness. If it had been light there to use our glasses on it to find out where there was an atom of life in it, before the atom was exploited to show what it was, we would tell you so, but we can't go that far with you. We don't know how the atom became in space and what came out of space a human being, that's as far back as we can go with you. This is what Allah taught me.

He said to me in answer to my question on man's creation, He said, "Brother we know that he was created, but when, we can't tell you, because we had nothing to go by. And so, He had to tell all of Himself, after He Created Himself, then we go from what He said, and I thought that that was good truth for me to teach you.

Question: Where did the lower forms of animal life come from, and how it came about?

Messenger: The form of animal life, I asked him about it, and how did they come here. The first thing He answered is every since we had the earth we had the animals on it. I said, "how was they made," He said, "I told you. Ever since we had the earth we had animals right on it."

Question: I would like to know the authenticity of the lost 10 books of the Bible.

Messenger: I don't know brother, He didn't teach me that any books were lost?

Question: According the Bible it teaches that God is a spirit and that was the main thing that kind of stumbled me when I first heard your teaching. Are these quotes in the Bible been added and how long have this teachings been going on?

Messenger: Ever since the writers of the Book.

Question: I would like to know if the Nation of Islam teaches of a heaven and hell as in Christianity.

Messenger: No. Not like Christianity, but it teaches of a heaven and hell, but not in the same way that Christianity teaches. We teach of a heaven and a hell while you live. You cannot be tormented in hell if you are not alive. You got to be alive to feel the torment and if you are in a heaven you got to be alive to feel the joys of heaven.

Question: Then Sir, there is no such thing as life after death.

Messenger: No. If you are referring to a physical death. A physical death does not carry any life, it's physically dead. But if you are referring to a spiritual death, that is true, being dead to the spirit of God, you don't have His spirit in you, then we call you dead.

Question: I read in the Bible that man will destroy himself, do you believe that?

Messenger: Yes. I believe it.

Question: In what way?

Messenger: In whatever way you build your life up. You don't have no, nothing out here that will destroy you just because that it can destroy you only when you go to fight each other, but there is nothing prepared out here to destroy you, you destroys yourself, so Allah taught me.

Question: Is it true that the devil has reached the moon?

Messenger: Why certainly, in a physical way, yes, according to their reports and their pictures on the moon.

Question: [What about the spiritual part?]

Messenger: He has not reached that part, that part that we preach of equality. That's spiritual teaching. And that he has not reached the spiritual equality. That's what we represents the moon for: Equality between man and man; therefore, that moon have not as yet been reached by the devil.

Question: How is it that the Egyptians get the pyramids as high as they did and with what instruments?

Messenger: The Saviour taught me that they had a hydraulic they used in those days that they don't have in use now, and will not put it in use, because of the devil that he will grasp that knowledge as he don't know it yet, he has been asking the question himself. He (Saviour) said to me, he would put that same hydraulic in effect as soon as they remove the devil. They don't want him to know.

Question: Since Black man are the original man, are there black men in among other beings on other planets?

Messenger: I didn't get the teachings of the knowledge of what was on other planets from Him, as He was trying to acquaint me into the knowledge of myself who is on this planet and others who are on this planet.

Question: In the last days of the Lost-Found, how will the Muslims survive?

Messenger: That's what God came for: to save us from that which He will permit to destroy our enemies. He have come to separate the righteous from the wicked and destroy the wicked and save us from the destruction of that that He is using to destroy the wicked.

Question: Since your teaching on the Theology of Time, approximately ten weeks back, you said that in the destruction of America there were two places of refuge. I was wondering if you could reveal those two places.

Messenger: Well, if I did, there is two; I can prove to you there is two. Here is one, number one: refuge with your Lord and my Lord. Good question brother, to know where you will be patient and where you will be secure.

Question: In your teachings today, you indicated that we as black people should get rid of the names that the slave-master has given to us over the years. Do you recognize the legality and legitimacy of non-Christian names assumed by black people by virtue of court decrees which names have not been given to the black brother or sister by yourself?

Messenger: I recognize any black man's name if he have some kind of origin for it, but I know that if you see the hereafter, which is meaning the destruction of this world and the name of the devil, that you will have an honorable name and a name that will live and a name that everyone of our people will respect and will admire, but the name of the devils of this world, their name will be destroyed with them. You won't have their name around here to go in. Their language will be destroyed. You won't be able to speak their language, so Allah taught me, after 20 years of destruction of them. You will have to speak your own Holy language, because no one will talk to you in any other language.

Question: How can I strengthen my belief?

Messenger: Just keep coming here brother.

Question: When the world comes to an end, will Allah turn His back on the people of the East or will He send someone to teach them who the right God is?

Messenger: I am teaching you of who the right God is myself. The Bible say, that He will send His angels from the East to gather us from the west.

Question: After the visiting the Temple and listening carefully, how could one could become a Muslim.

Messenger: Believe what I teach you and follow me.

Question: Whether or not the great northern bean should be eaten.

Messenger: We don't go for eating the large size bean, though they may be the navy bean, but we eat the small size of them, that's what He taught me.

Question: Mr. Muhammad, I'd like to know, I read in the Sun Times that Master Fard was a drug addict, is that true?

Messenger: I don't think you have found any drugs here for sale have you? He didn't teach us to use drugs; that would put us out of our natural mind. In fact about it, He didn't teach us to use drugs of no kind.

We use drugs sometimes due to our weakness of causing our bodies to need some kind of nursing of that which is now making us sick, but He didn't teach me that. He told me and taught me how to live to keep me from using anything like drugs, but sometimes we get away and we go and do that against the nature of our bodies in which they were made, then we go and look for something to help us to get back into the well being and we grab at anything that will give us easement that the drugs. But if you live like He taught me for us to live we don't need drugs at no time. We eat once every two or three days, we won't need no drugs. You say, "Well Muhammad, they tell me you used some drugs." Yes, because I was other than myself. I wasn't eating like He told me; therefore, falling away from the way I was taught, I suffered the consequence. I suppose to pay, if I don't live according to His teachings. But I was to prove it. Like the people thought of Job.

He being a beloved man of God and He turned him over to the devil to try him out. He let the devil try him, for the devil had said to God, "Take you hedge from around him and he will curse you to your face." He told the devil to go and try him, but save his life. So, the devil went and he pulled on Job everything that he had, even to that he had those who believed in him under, but he was unable to change Job's mind. Job suffered all the afflictions that were put upon him as he tells you in his book. That God brought him near death; nevertheless, he refused to forsake God and he came out of it and the devil was defeated. I am the modern Job.

I have suffered bronchitis, asthma for about 10 years, but I am not ready to curse God and die. The Bible is talking about us. I asked Him about this, as to who was it talking about, us or the Jews and Christians, He said it's talking about you. When it comes to my afflictions, you can take plenty of it brothers and sisters. You will be alright after that. I'll go and read over Job's afflictions. I think he did come out of it, so I believe I'm coming out of mine. I could not be able to teach you if I don't taste the same as you taste. As the Bible teaches you, "In all of their afflictions he was afflicted, but yet the pleasure of the Lord will be upon him." It don't mean by no means that he was guilty of something and God afflicted him. It don't mean that.

Question: I notice that within a few weeks they white press and the news media is waging a campaign against the Arabs and the Arab Nations and trying to get public sympathy for the Israelis, and I wonder could this be because the Arab Nations are starting to recognize the Black Muslim Movement here in the U.S.?

Messenger: Yes, I believe those who have knowledge of what kind of work I am doing in America is beginning to recognize it and respect it. I believe that. This is the greatest that has ever happened in our midst since we have been crucified into slavery by the white man. Never a work of this kind come in his midst that he was able to try and attack and win. He don't even question this work. You go out there and bring all you can see out there. Not a one of them will question me. There is nothing for him to question me on. He knows the truth, but he is not able to do the truth, but he know it. He gave me credit for teaching the truth, but he is not able to accept the truth, because there is no truth in him.

Question: According to the Christian teachings, all men must die, but those who are on the right side of God will go on to an eternal life?

Messenger: Yes, and that's why we are here today, because those on the right side mean those who believe in God and they put their trust in God, and we are defenders of those righteous people.

Question: Do we have to suffer death?

Messenger: There is not a life made, according to the teachings of God to me that will not face death.

Question: What made the Egyptians wicked?

Messenger: There was in their time the wicked man coming among them 6000 years ago, the wicked devil got a chance to visit among the Egyptians; like when England come among the Egyptians and they deceived the Egyptians to follow and doing like them. And there was the Turkish in Egypt and they put a little of their devil stuff in them under the rule of Pasha.

Question: Did you yourself speak to God?

Messenger: Yes, I thought I was speaking to him every since I was born, but I didn't know him. I was blinded to the knowledge of him, so He came to me and made Himself known to me. This is the way I got to Him. I was trying to see Him, but I wasn't able to approach the right path to get to Him, because I was blind when I was born by the enemy.

Question: I was reading in the Muhammad Speaks that you were going to come back to the Temple and reveal where the Promise Land was, and I was following the Muhammad Speaks and have not seen you reveal that and I want to know if you still intend to? Messenger: The place where you are in now. As you may read in the Bible where the Jesus said, that it is the Lord's own good Will to give thee the kingdom. This means a kingdom that you will have to inherit, that is not present at that time, but the kingdom of heaven that's formed for the righteous. And it will be this place that He will give: the kingdom of the wicked. As Isaiah, and other prophets prophesy, that He gives to us the kingdom of the wicked.

Question: Did Joseph and Mary have another child after Jesus?

Messenger: We find here in the New Testament where they were inquiring of Jesus while he was teaching that someone told Jesus that his mother, brothers and sisters were out there inquiring and the Jesus made it clear that none could be his mother, nor brother or sister unless they believed like him.

This showed that his mother and his brothers was not disbelievers in him if he turned them down like that. He said these are mine, that stand here, meaning those who were on the inside with him. That is true. And the way of the believer: you can't be the brother of the believer of sister of the believer unless you believe like them.

Question: Were the Original Scientist Black?

Messenger: Yes, according to what God taught me. The original ones was black. They have a kind of circle to them themselves, and they all was black.

Question: Why do we now have to go to the devil to get our knowledge as far as science?

Messenger: Well, it is not my and your way. I'm not in that way. I don't go to the devil to get knowledge. If I had went to the devil to get knowledge you would attack me on that knowledge, but since I didn't graduate from college and universities of his, my knowledge is not of the world. All that I teach came from Allah under the Name of Master Fard Muhammad, to Whom praise is due forever. I got nothing out of the schools and colleges and universities of the white man, I have none of them.

Question: But we have to go to the established schools and universities in order to build a Nation.

Messenger: You don't have to go to the universities of the devil to be able to teach the Nation. As I just told you, I didn't go. I never have been. This is why you must have a change. You can't have a change unless that you get out of what you are in, and getting into another civilization, you will have to have the knowledge of how to get in that civilization. So, I teach you something new. It is not out there in this civilization. You can't find a step of it. Everything that you teach me even from "A" in the kindergarten of this devil's schools have to be changed from that way and that way of understanding of "A" and "B" over here with us. You say, "Well, go ahead and tell me," Oh, well, let's go ahead in the back and write your name on the book.

This is why the devil puts science to every letter of his teaching of the alphabet and reading. He got science in his letters for you to pay attention to that if he has recorded it to be understood in another way, but we have something already recorded and have done away with it if you will understand what we are telling you. I want to teach you that which God has given to me to give to you, and the knowledge of that which the enemy gave you so you can know how to compare the two. That's why I'm inviting you to come. If you will follow me around in the teaching of the other, I will teach you the meaning of things when I can get you to understand first yourself, then the understanding of the signs into higher learning will become clearer to you. I am not raised up among you, who are blind, deaf and dumb, to use the signs he uses for his higher knowledge and understanding in his educational system. I know this, but I want you to learn yourselves; so, when I teach you, and go with you over in your own higher education, you will not call me a liar.

Question: Why don't we know the actual time of the beginning of the first God?

Messenger: Because there was no one there to record it. He is the God. There is no God in the Sun before you. The Blackman has no beginning.